JCB 3cx Manual (please!)

[Rhinoneil]

I am new to this forum, Just bought a 1989 3CX through Ritchie bros. in Holland to do some work installing a stone farm track on my farm in Normandie. I don't know one end of a JCB from another, so it's going to be a steep learning curve! I've ordered the bits to give it a service before I start. And yes, I wanted a (free if possible) workshop manual to do it. I hope I don't fall into the catagory of "one visit to get the manual and goodbye" I am and will be grateful for any advice. And over the next few months you will be sick of the sight of me!!

[Muz]

Hi Neil .. welcome to the forum

[Stock]

Welcome there Rhino, delighted to have you on board, give us some details of your purchase and you never know what santa Stock might do..............

[Stock]

well??

[Wazza]

He probably cant understand your accent Stock ...

[Stock]

As othersay no good deal goes unpunished, in future I'll make them earn it before I surrender the manual.....

[Dan]

Thanks Stock I think sometimes thes guys forget what they ask for ? therel be a pretty number of pages in that book ............. as rob says .. if they dont wanna post ........dont do the help , and quite rite .... good will from forum members should not be taken for granted IMHO

[jackie606]

Hi,Welcome here,unfurtunatly we do not have the workshop manual for JCB 3CX.Hope other guys can help you.Good luck.

[Rhinoneil]

3CX manual

As othersay no good deal goes unpunished, in future I'll make them earn it before I surrender the manual.....

I'm realy sorry I've not been back to the forum, thanks for the manual I did appreciate it and thought I'd thanked you so again sorry.
I have a stud farm in Normandie France it's only me and the wife and 25 horses!! January to May is our busiest time with foaling and covering many sleepless nights watching the CCTV waiting for mares to foal, and not much time for socialiseing let alone forums. I'm about to start servicing the 3cx and may get some work done at last now the ground is drying up a bit, I'll post some pictures when I get the chance. I'm putting in a stone track to my back fields 350 metres of it!! Again sorry for the delay

[Stock]

Well done Neill delighted you returned to face my ire and you did thank me for the manual but the discussion was about the grab and run type who once the get what they want legit.

You mentioned a road what material and what depth and of course what is the road to carry? horses or equipment?

[Rhinoneil]

Well done Neill delighted you returned to face my ire and you did thank me for the manual but the discussion was about the grab and run type who once the get what they want legit.

You mentioned a road what material and what depth and of course what is the road to carry? horses or equipment?

Well, are you sitting confortably and I'll begin!! I initialy had a couple of quotes of French firms who wanted between 25 and 35,000 euros - ouch! thats why I bought the JCB. In my opinion it was overkill 4 to 500mm down then teram (is that how you spell it?) then large stone capped off with what I think is 3/4 down and rolled afterwards. It's only a farm track for f***s sake for the tractor and the horses not the M4!!
My land undulates so I do get problems with drainage and intend to put a ditch right up the middle with teram, a perforated drainage pipe then clean stone for the drainage, the road itself, I think about 9" deep is enough with teram under the stone, I was also going to use 1" down and then compact it. The track is not in daily use not even weekly so I think this will be enough. Finaly I'm sorry to say that my JCB engine layout does not resemble the manual you kindly supplied. My JCB is the square nosed type, I've managed the basic stuff though, (I know one end of a spanner from the other) any problems in future and I'll cross that bridge when I get to it!!
Any way, up again tonight I've another mare due so I'll be watching the CCTV again. I'll try and catch up soon.

Many thanks for your understanding

[Wee Jim]

How old is your jcb? Are you sure it's a 3cx and not just a 3c??

[CaptLimey]

Well, are you sitting confortably and I'll begin!! I initialy had a couple of quotes of French firms who wanted between 25 and 35,000 euros - ouch! thats why I bought the JCB. In my opinion it was overkill 4 to 500mm down then teram (is that how you spell it?) then large stone capped off with what I think is 3/4 down and rolled afterwards. It's only a farm track for f***s sake for the tractor and the horses not the M4!!
My land undulates so I do get problems with drainage and intend to put a ditch right up the middle with teram, a perforated drainage pipe then clean stone for the drainage, the road itself, I think about 9" deep is enough with teram under the stone, I was also going to use 1" down and then compact it. The track is not in daily use not even weekly so I think this will be enough. Finaly I'm sorry to say that my JCB engine layout does not resemble the manual you kindly supplied. My JCB is the square nosed type, I've managed the basic stuff though, (I know one end of a spanner from the other) any problems in future and I'll cross that bridge when I get to it!!
Any way, up again tonight I've another mare due so I'll be watching the CCTV again. I'll try and catch up soon.

Many thanks for your understanding

Hi Neil from a fellow French resident.
Re spelling - teram - can't find it in my French sources, maybe its 'Terrain' (sound similar) which has many meaning in French but in your case could just mean the track or course you want laid?
Re laying a perforated drain, I've done some of that. Down here in the south we can buy flexible perforated 90mm polyethylene tube in 50 meter rolls for 59 Euros from Brico Depot, do you have them up north? It is suggested that it should be laid on a thin bed of gravel and covered by about 20-30 mm of clean gravel and then topped with a film of Geotex Filtre (49 Euros for 50 meters from Brico Depot) to prevent water borne silt from choking the gravel. Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs!
Sorry I can't help with the JCB my digger's a Takeuchi. Bon chance with the foaling.
Rgds CL

[Stock]

Hi Neil from a fellow French resident.
Re spelling - teram - can't find it in my French sources, maybe its 'Terrain' (sound similar) which has many meaning in French but in your case could just mean the track or course you want laid?
Re laying a perforated drain, I've done some of that. Down here in the south we can buy flexible perforated 90mm polyethylene tube in 50 meter rolls for 59 Euros from Brico Depot, do you have them up north? It is suggested that it should be laid on a thin bed of gravel and covered by about 20-30 mm of clean gravel and then topped with a film of Geotex Filtre (49 Euros for 50 meters from Brico Depot) to prevent water borne silt from choking the gravel. Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs!
Sorry I can't help with the JCB my digger's a Takeuchi. Bon chance with the foaling.
Rgds CL

No it's terram or geotextile..............http://www.terram.com/

Terram is a reinforcing fabric used under-stone where the ground has a CBR of less than 25%. It prevents the stone disappearing in to the mud,stops the mud contaminating the stone, but lets the water through. I have seen it used on ground you wouldn't walk on (twin layers with 600mm lab laid at 90 degrees to each other). There is a woven type and well it looks like a filter or wool felt.

It is mainly used off a 6m x 100m roll. If you have a hight content of mud in the area you are laying the road or if you are hauling very heavy loads then by all means use terram, but from my experience All I ever did with farm roadways was strip topsoil dig to 150 then put 300mm of 6n (6" down) or rubble compact it and cap it with Cl 804 or screenings. When it was for dairy cows we used crushed pencil or mud stone as it broke down and didn't hurt the cows feet, it did however need to be top-dressed every couple of years.

[CaptLimey]

Hi Stock and thanks for the update on road laying, I've learned something!
Cheers CL