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  • #46
    Originally posted by Dan View Post
    Some good work there mate .............. I might have a couple of ton for you to split
    Aye see what you can do when you don't spend all your spare time on an xbox?

    Looks like Ive inherited these bad boys....

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    A 100 year old chestnut that died out front of our yard .. a good 3 foot diameter at the base .. Dont think ive ever burnt chestnut .. whats it like in a stove ?
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    • #47
      GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAttt t!!

      That one looks about ready if not a tad rotten..........
      A driven man with a burning passion.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Stock View Post
        GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAttt t!!

        That one looks about ready if not a tad rotten..........
        Yeah it was killed by a fungus called Black lace apparently .. AAAAAAAAAAAAgaaaadoo doo dooo doo .. the main trunk is saturated .. but Ive salvaged some of the upper timbers for burning already as they are dry
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        • #49
          OK the saga moves on Courtesy of some advice from v8druid I have decided to increase the size of my puny rod We're going from a 30mm rod and 60mm case to a 50mm rod and 90 mm case .. Ive already used the torch to wash off the old welds from the previous ram mounts and made a clean job of it .. all that gas pressure and I was like a surgeon will post some other pics as I go .. the attached is the old and new ram
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Muz View Post
            OK the saga moves on Courtesy of some advice from v8druid I have decided to increase the size of my puny rod We're going from a 30mm rod and 60mm case to a 50mm rod and 90 mm case .. Ive already used the torch to wash off the old welds from the previous ram mounts and made a clean job of it .. all that gas pressure and I was like a surgeon will post some other pics as I go .. the attached is the old and new ram

            That may not be the only thing that'll need upgrading Muz 15 tons of output from that lil' mutha, as opposed to 9.6 originally!!

            Nice looking ram ...... what's it off/from?
            Looks vaguely crane/hiab-ish

            It'll be taking no prisoners - wooden or metal
            If it's got tracks, wheels, t*ts, or an engine, at some point it's gonna give you trouble!!

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            • #51
              Originally posted by v8druid View Post
              That may not be the only thing that'll need upgrading Muz 15 tons of output from that lil' mutha, as opposed to 9.6 originally!!

              Nice looking ram ...... what's it off/from?
              Looks vaguely crane/hiab-ish

              It'll be taking no prisoners - wooden or metal
              Yeah .. I might have to find a new H beam to mount it all on .. I dunno what it came off .. the large eyelets should be a clue I guess ? the guys said that the block at the base only opens to allow flow once 50 Bar is exceeded .. so I dont know if i'll be keeping that bit .. would be a bit of a pain to remove it as I'd have to weld in some feed pipes ..
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Muz View Post
                Yeah .. I might have to find a new H beam to mount it all on .. I dunno what it came off .. the large eyelets should be a clue I guess ? the guys said that the block at the base only opens to allow flow once 50 Bar is exceeded .. so I dont know if i'll be keeping that bit .. would be a bit of a pain to remove it as I'd have to weld in some feed pipes ..
                Was looking at the check valve on it Muz and wondering if you were going to gut it out.
                The ram looks remarkably like the boom extension ram out of a Grove crane boom ....... but a hell of a lot shorter
                Got one here with a 25 ft (IIRC) stroke would make a hell of a tree splitter I'll get you a pic of the valve end on that.

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                Looks the same from memory (but we're talking a 'Druid memory' here mind) !!
                What's the stroke on it?

                Grove did make small(ish) tele hiab type cranes for missile carriers/deck cranes/back ends of trucks - used a lot in the States !

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                Would love one of these cheap - make a great workshop crane bolted to the deck/floor in yer shed!!
                If it's got tracks, wheels, t*ts, or an engine, at some point it's gonna give you trouble!!

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by v8druid View Post
                  Was looking at the check valve on it Muz and wondering if you were going to gut it out.
                  I don't know what is in the guts of it ? If it was in a lifting application maybe it was a check valve. The shop said it was a pressure limit system for opening , but I read that the other way I have to agree with you .. It looks much more like a fail safe .... The question is ... Will it limit pressure going in ? as that would reduce my available power
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Muz View Post
                    I don't know what is in the guts of it ? If it was in a lifting application maybe it was a check valve. The shop said it was a pressure limit system for opening , but I read that the other way I have to agree with you .. It looks much more like a fail safe .... The question is ... Will it limit pressure going in ? as that would reduce my available power
                    My best understanding of it would be; it would not operate/open flow to the cylinder until a 50 bar pressure was reached, in either motion, to ensure no/safeguard against, hose failure.
                    I'd also guess it came from a lift environment with this set up?

                    In your application it would/could mean it might 'come in' with 'a bit of a bump' ??
                    You'd really have to try it to see.

                    I'd be surprised if it couldn't be 'gotten around', with a little enterprising ingenuity in the guts dept. of the valve, and without having to remove the block itself !!
                    If it's got tracks, wheels, t*ts, or an engine, at some point it's gonna give you trouble!!

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                    • #55
                      And so the old brackets have been removed and a b*stardised old quick hitch used to carry the ram, and provide enough metal 'out back' to get a head stock welded on temporarily so I can move the thing ! The next job is to fix the ram head to the splitter pushing face
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                      • #56
                        Not being one who throws things out, I'll maybe try and reuse the old brackets

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                        • #57
                          Reckon your yard'd be an interesting place to have a ratch about in Muz
                          That is quite some ram eh!

                          here's a couple of pix of the 25 footer I was wittering about earlier and its valve - very similar, but you'd wanna longer bit o' UB for this one and binoculars to see the block

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                          Looking good there though Muz - gonna be a beasty
                          If it's got tracks, wheels, t*ts, or an engine, at some point it's gonna give you trouble!!

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                          • #58
                            Well some would call it failure .. but I'm calling it progress ..

                            IMG_3169[1].jpg this is where quick hitch that held the back end of the ram 'was' welded to the H beam .. Now before any one asks .. no it wasn't welded up proper .. it was positioned, then secured with more weld There's a lot of difference (the oil is irrelevant as was from some hose work above long after welding)

                            I decided to try and see how much force was getting generated by a test split before fully fashioning the locating lugs for the ram head. I'm not a structural engineer, but I know when to 'knee' and 'knit' my load areas to take the strain. Suffice to say that this ram pinged off all these welds with no real trouble .. so its looking good for power The other point of the test was to determine whether or not I'm going to have to manufacture an entirely new bed .. which I have to say is looking likely. I was watching to see a deformative bend in the main beam, but , the weld gave way beforehand, however, if it can do that so easily, I'm not in much doubt the whole structure will need 'upped'. Then there is the issue of the knife attachment its self, with this much power.

                            Its all good fun, and exercises the mind

                            Now that I know what I'm dealing with , it lets me think, and build the thing with the strength to do the job .. more pics to follow as I go .... Ive never made a project yet that hasn't done the job
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                            • #59
                              As V8druid says a hiab bolted to a Worksop floor would be handy. I would like a small one on my ifor Williams trailer for lifting log bags on and off the trailer.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Muz View Post
                                Well some would call it failure .. but I'm calling it progress ..

                                [ATTACH=CONFIG]2469[/ATTACH] this is where quick hitch that held the back end of the ram 'was' welded to the H beam .. Now before any one asks .. no it wasn't welded up proper .. it was positioned, then secured with more weld There's a lot of difference (the oil is irrelevant as was from some hose work above long after welding)

                                I decided to try and see how much force was getting generated by a test split before fully fashioning the locating lugs for the ram head. I'm not a structural engineer, but I know when to 'knee' and 'knit' my load areas to take the strain. Suffice to say that this ram pinged off all these welds with no real trouble .. so its looking good for power The other point of the test was to determine whether or not I'm going to have to manufacture an entirely new bed .. which I have to say is looking likely. I was watching to see a deformative bend in the main beam, but , the weld gave way beforehand, however, if it can do that so easily, I'm not in much doubt the whole structure will need 'upped'. Then there is the issue of the knife attachment its self, with this much power.

                                Its all good fun, and exercises the mind

                                Now that I know what I'm dealing with , it lets me think, and build the thing with the strength to do the job .. more pics to follow as I go .... Ive never made a project yet that hasn't done the job
                                Well at least it didn't tear the parent material to bits Muz and it's still intact to fight another day, if required. Hydraulic power is wonderful stuff eh

                                Don't think it'll take much in the way of prisoners in the timber dept. then, once suitably beefed enough to take full bollo in the oil dept.
                                MKII coming up then!!
                                If it's got tracks, wheels, t*ts, or an engine, at some point it's gonna give you trouble!!

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